{"id":20950,"date":"2022-06-18T12:41:57","date_gmt":"2022-06-18T12:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.otpor.media\/index.php\/2022\/06\/18\/https-otpor-media-na-ekonomskom-forumu-u-sankt-peterburgu-putin-dobio-je-neocekivanu-javnu-pljusku-pred-gospodarskom-elitom\/"},"modified":"2022-06-18T12:41:57","modified_gmt":"2022-06-18T12:41:57","slug":"https-otpor-media-na-ekonomskom-forumu-u-sankt-peterburgu-putin-dobio-je-neocekivanu-javnu-pljusku-pred-gospodarskom-elitom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/otpor.media\/?p=20950","title":{"rendered":"Na Ekonomskom forumu u Sankt Peterburgu Putin dobio je neo\u010dekivanu javnu pljusku pred gospodarskom elitom"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tijekom panel diskusije na Ekonomskom forumu u Sankt Peterburgu ruski predsjednik Vladimir Putin dobio je neo\u010dekivanu javnu pljusku pred gospodarskom elitom u velikoj hali i moderatoricom, glavnom urednicom dr\u017eavne televizijske mre\u017ee RT, Margaritom Simonjan. Na jednom od najve\u0107ih godi\u0161njih ekonomskih simpozija, koji su dugi niz godina posje\u0107ivali i zapadni dr\u017eavnici i poduzetnici, ove godine su dominirali ruski biznismeni, a od visoko pozicioniranih inozemnih politi\u010dara u dvorani je bio tek predsjednik Kazahstana Kasim D\u017eomart Tokajev koji je, nakon uvodnih govora i snimljenih videoporuka kineskog i egipatskog predsjednika Xija Jinpinga i Abdel Fataha al-Sissija, s Putinom sudjelovao u poduljoj diskusiji na kojoj su teme varirale od ekonomskih preko tehnolo\u0161kih pa sve do neizbje\u017enih geopoliti\u010dkih.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nakon \u0161to je Putin u jednom trenutku, ponovno se pozivaju\u0107i na &#8220;presedan Kosova&#8221;, \u010diju neovisnost Ruska Federacija na priznaje, nastojao opravdati rusko priznanje dviju samozvanih republika na teritoriju ukrajinskog Donbasa, Tokajev se ne pretjerano biranim rije\u010dima usprotivio i pomisli na priznanje Donjecke i Luganske Narodne Republike (DNR i LNR). Dok je Putin inzistirao da Rusija u Donbasu nastoji za\u0161tititi rusofone gra\u0111ane te da je ruske vojnike ondje poslao na poziv vodstava DNR-a i LNR-a, \u010diji su predsjednici u Sankt Peterburgu sjedili u prvom redu, odvojeni tek ruskim ministrom financija, Tokajev je iznio potpuno suprotan pogled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kazahstanski \u010delnik se referirao na Putinovo spominjanje UN-ove povelje i njezinih odredaba o pravu na samoodre\u0111enje. On je te odredbe doveo u opreku s odredbama iste povelje o suverenosti i teritorijalnom integritetu dr\u017eava \u010dlanica UN-a. Dopisnik ruskog Kommersanta, prekaljeni Andrej Koljesnikov, u svom je izvje\u0161taju iz Sankt Peterburga opisao \u0161ok koji je nastao zbog Tokajevljeva istupa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Bit \u0107u iskren, imamo razli\u010dita mi\u0161ljenja o ovome pitanju, zapo\u010deo je Tokajev i napomenuo da suvremeno me\u0111unarodno pravo temelj ima u Povelji UN-a, \u010dime je odmah o\u010ditao diplomatsku bukvicu Putinu koji se, spominju\u0107i &#8220;presedan Kosova&#8221;, referirao na kontroverznu odluku Me\u0111unarodnog suda pravde koji je na slu\u017ebeni upit Srbije 2008. godine zaklju\u010dio da kosovsko progla\u0161enje nezavisnosti nije u neskladu s me\u0111unarodnim pravom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dva sukobljena principa<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Dva osnovna principa koje Povelja sadr\u017ei u dana\u0161nje su vrijeme do\u0161la u konflikt jedan s drugim. Govorim o principu teritorijalnog integriteta dr\u017eave i pravu naroda na samoodre\u0111enje. Osniva\u010di UN-a o\u010dito nisu u to vrijeme ovo uzimali u obzir, a mo\u017eda su i namjerno oba ta principa uveli u Povelju kao kompromisno rje\u0161enje koje danas predstavlja kontradikciju, izjavio je \u010delnik Kazahstana.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Naravno, s obzirom da su u kontradikciji, postoje i razli\u010dita razumijevanja tih principa. Neki \u0107e re\u0107i da je teritorijalni integritet sveta kategorija, dok \u0107e drugi tvrditi da svaki narod koji \u017eivi u nekoj dr\u017eavi ima pravo na vlastitu dr\u017eavu i da se ima pravo odvojiti od te dr\u017eave. Postoji ra\u010dunica prema kojoj bi, kada bi se to pravo na samoodre\u0111enje naroda realiziralo u svim slu\u010dajevima diljem svijeta, umjesto 193 dr\u017eave koje su trenutno \u010dlanice, UN imao vi\u0161e od 500 ili 600 dr\u017eava \u010dlanica. Naravno da bi to bio kaos, pojasnio je Tokajev.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Upravo je to razlog \u0161to mi ne priznajemo ni Tajvan, ni Kosovo, ni Ju\u017enu Osetiju, ni Abhaziju. A taj \u0107emo princip primijeniti i na teritorije kao \u0161to su kvazidr\u017eave, kakvim smatramo LNR i DNR. Eto, to je moj iskren odgovor na va\u0161e iskreno pitanje, poentirao je Tokajev obra\u0107aju\u0107i se moderatorici koja je, evidentno zate\u010dena, zahvalila na toj iskrenosti i dometnula da je malo tko u dana\u0161nje vrijeme iskren u ovakvim prilikama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kommersantov dopisnik Koljesnikov javlja da je trebao uslijediti Putinov odgovor Tokajevu, no Simonjan je lukavo pre\u0161la na drugu temu pa je Putina pitala je li do\u0161ao trenutak da &#8220;re\u017eim u Kijevu dobije udarac \u0161akom u zube&#8221; i &#8220;kada \u0107e po\u010deti napadi na centre u kojima se donose odluke&#8221;. Putin je po\u010deo odgovarati, a Koljesnikov izvje\u0161tava da je izgledalo kao da je upravo, zahvaljuju\u0107i Simonjan, u zadnji tren osobno izbjegao udarac u vlastite zube. Do kraja panela na Tokajevljev istup se nije ni osvrnuo, a Kommersantov dopisnik \u0161pekulira da je takav istup \u010delnika Kazahstana mo\u017eda bio i njegov uvjet da se uop\u0107e pojavi u Sankt Peterburgu. Druga opcija Putinove \u0161utnje, po njemu, bila je jer nije imao \u0161to dodati Tokajevljevim rije\u010dima.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Ali, to je malo vjerojatno, uvijek on ima ne\u0161to za dodati, dome\u0107e Koljesnikov i navodi intrigantan detalj iz dvorane dok je Putin poja\u0161njavao koje su njegove &#8220;crvene linije&#8221;, odnosno u kojem bi trenutku mogao narediti napad na &#8220;centre u kojima se donose odluke&#8221; u Ukrajini.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doga\u0111aj bez presedana<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Dogodilo se ne\u0161to bez presedana za plenardni dio Foruma: poprili\u010dan broj uzvanika ve\u0107 je napustio halu, navodi Koljesnikov opisuju\u0107i ogromne praznine koje se nisu mogle opravdati ni po\u0161tivanjem pandemijske distance.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">-Ovo se nikada prije nije dogodilo. Jesu li se oteli kontroli? Jesu li se prestali bojati? \u0160to je sljede\u0107e? Koja je njihova crvena linija?, upitao je Koljesnikov.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bloomberg u svojem izvje\u0161taju tuma\u010di da je Tokajevljeva izjava vrlo rijedak slu\u010daj nesuglasja s doma\u0107inom na forumu u Sankt Peterburgu. \u0160tovi\u0161e, pridaju joj i daleko ve\u0107i zna\u010daj zbog \u010dinjenice da je tek mjesec i pol prije invazije na Ukrajinu, ruska vojska bila upravo u Kazahstanu kako bi obranila Tokajeva od nasilnih prosvjeda koji su izbili zbog ogromnog poskupljenja autoplina, a koje je re\u017eim u Astani smatrao poku\u0161ajem dr\u017eavnog udara.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ne\u0161to prije Tokajevljeve izjave, Putin je i njemu priu\u0161tio jednu neugodnost rekav\u0161i da je Sovjetski Savez, u \u010dijem je sastavu bio i dana\u0161nji Kazahstan, pokrivao identi\u010dan teritorij koji je pokrivala i &#8220;povijesna Rusija&#8221;. Ipak, dobrohotno je dodao da nitko u Rusiji ni ne pomi\u0161lja na kvarenje veza s &#8220;bratskim&#8221; Kazahstanom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jutarnji.hr\/vijesti\/svijet\/putin-dobio-javnu-pljusku-od-najblizeg-saveznika-morat-cu-biti-iskren-nevjerica-u-dvorani-jesu-li-se-oteli-kontroli-15211969\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jutarnji.hr<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tijekom panel diskusije na Ekonomskom forumu u Sankt Peterburgu ruski predsjednik Vladimir Putin dobio je neo\u010dekivanu javnu pljusku pred gospodarskom elitom u velikoj hali i moderatoricom, glavnom urednicom dr\u017eavne televizijske mre\u017ee RT, Margaritom Simonjan. 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