{"id":21654,"date":"2022-08-25T08:29:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-25T08:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.otpor.media\/index.php\/2022\/08\/25\/https-otpor-media-skandal-ht-eronet-u-sirokom-brijegu-krivotvorio-potpis-klijenta\/"},"modified":"2024-07-05T13:19:50","modified_gmt":"2024-07-05T13:19:50","slug":"https-otpor-media-skandal-ht-eronet-u-sirokom-brijegu-krivotvorio-potpis-klijenta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/otpor.media\/?p=21654","title":{"rendered":"SKANDAL: HT ERONET u \u0160irokom Brijegu krivotvorio potpis klijenta!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Ovdje se o\u010dito radi o krivotvorini potpisa, i to je posao za nas!&#8221; &#8211; kazali su nam u neformalnom razgovoru policijski djelatnici kojima smo pokazali novi &#8220;slu\u010daj&#8221; koji \u0107emo javnosti prezentirati, a s kojim se susreo na\u0161 sugra\u0111anin u poslovnici HT ERONET-a u \u0160irokom Brijegu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Ako je istina \u0161to ste nam kazali i ovo \u0161to smo vidjeli, tu ima posla i za nas. Jer krivotvoriti ne\u010diji potpis stavljaju\u0107i ga na slu\u017ebeni dokument kojim bi se izvla\u010dila nekome, neka korist, to predstavlja krivi\u010dno djelo i o\u0161te\u0107eni slobodno neka nam se obrati&#8221; &#8211; kazali su u neformalnom razgovoru iz Tu\u017eiteljstva \u017dZH nakon \u0161to smo im prezentirali dokaze i novu pri\u010du na kojoj radimo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ok, svi imaju posla, a imamo ga i mi prezentirati Vam \u0161to se dogodilo tog dana u poslovnica HT ERONET-a u \u0160irokom Brijegu, kada je na\u0161 \u010ditatelj Robert Ljubi\u0107 iz \u0160irokog Brijega do\u0161ao raskinuti ugovor o daljnjoj pretplati.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Iako je prvi ugovor potpisao 2016.g. na dvije godine tj. do isteka ugovora 2018. g., nakon toga od 2016.g nije potpisivao nikakav produ\u017eetak ugovora s HT ERONET-om. Na njegov zahtjev da mu se odobri uvid u taj novi potpisani ugovor, isti ostaje iznena\u0111en kada je vidio potpis na istom, a koji nije njegov i \u0161to je jasno vidljivo, a u \u0161to se mo\u017eete i Vi uvjeriti kako nema niti malo sli\u010dnosti u potpisima.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/slucaj-eronet-25822-4.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28543\"\/><figcaption><strong><em>Krivotvoreni potpis Roberta Ljubi\u0107a<\/em><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/slucaj-eronet-25822-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28542\" width=\"510\" height=\"286\"\/><figcaption><strong><em>Pravi potpis Roberta Ljubi\u0107a<\/em><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tog dana, 28.03.2022.,nakon \u0161to je vidio potpis koji o\u010dito nije njegov, Robert Ljubi\u0107 vr\u0161i prigovor na ugovor tvrde\u0107i kako on nije potpisao taj ugovor i tra\u017ei raskid istoga.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"28550\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/?attachment_id=28550\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/pss.jpeg\" data-orig-size=\"720,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"pss\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/pss.jpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/slucaj-eronet-25822-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28550\" width=\"510\" height=\"300\"\/><figcaption><strong><em>Prigovor korisnika Roberta Ljubi\u0107a<\/em><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Odgovor koji je dobio, bio je kako ne mo\u017ee raskinuti ugovor jer isti jo\u0161 traje, a u protivnom ako bi do\u0161lo do raskida istoga, trebao bi platiti sve ostale tro\u0161kove do kada ugovor traje, a to su:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-Najam modema,<br>-Naknada \u0161tete za uni\u0161ten, o\u0161te\u0107en ili otu\u0111en 4-portni ADSL modem ili WiFi,<br>-Penali za -pretplata za ADSL<br>-Penali za &#8211; Modem ADSL<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u0160to za njega krajnjeg korisnika iznosi oko 435 KM.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/slucaj-eronet-25822-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28548\" width=\"510\" height=\"314\"\/><figcaption><strong><em>Prvo podmiri prijevremeni prekid ugovora!<\/em><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zatra\u017eili smo od g. Ljubi\u0107a na uvid njegove ostale dokumente na kojima se nalazi njegov potpis, iznena\u0111uju\u0107e, niti jedan pribli\u017eno ne sli\u010di krivotvorenom potpisu u poslovnici i ostaje nejasno tko je potpisao umjesto njega taj ugovora, ako on nije!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sukladno Zakonu o pristupu informacijama, ispred portala <strong>OTPOR<sup>.Media<\/sup><\/strong> \u0161aljemo prema HT ERONET-u upite&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tra\u017eimo da nam pojasne o \u010demu se ovdje konkretno radi i kako je mogu\u0107e da se potpis g. Ljubi\u0107a na\u0161ao na ugovoru kojega on nije potpisao:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-Iako je redovno pla\u0107ao sve ra\u010dune i nije koristio nikakve dodatne pogodnosti pretplatnika, a tek nakon odluke o raskidu ugovora shvatio kako je njegov potpis krivotvoren, zbog \u010dega Va\u0161 klijent nije informiran da mu je ugovor istekao 2018. godine i da ako \u017eeli nastaviti daljnju pretplatu nije pristupio osobno potpisati isti?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-Je li praksa HT ERONET-a da umjesto klijenta ugovor automatski se produ\u017euje bez njegova znanja i pristanka?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-Kako je moglo do\u0107i do krivotvorenja potpisa?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-S obzirom na to kako se radi o slu\u017ebenom dokumentu Ugovora, tko i na koji na\u010din snosi posljedice za ovakav postupak krivotvorenje potpisa?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-Jeste li imali i prije pritu\u017ebe na ovakve nepravilnosti krivotvorenja slu\u017ebenog potpisa?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>-\u0160to \u0107e po ovom pitanju poduzeti HT ERONET ako se sudski doka\u017ee kako se radilo o zlouporabi u poslovanju s klijentima?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ovo su bila pitanja koja smo uputili prema HT ERONETU, a op\u0161iran odgovor koji smo od njih dobili, mnoge \u0107e iznenaditi:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Po\u0161tovanje,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">JP HT d.d. Mostar sa svim svojim korisnicima postupa sukladno odredbama Op\u0107ih uvjeta za pru\u017eanje telekomunikacijskih usluga, koji su doneseni temeljem Zakona o komunikacijama te pravilnika Regulatorne agencije za komunikacije (RAK) kao krovne dr\u017eavne agencije za reguliranje pitanja koje ste u Va\u0161em obra\u0107anju naveli. Prodajno osoblje JP HT d.d. Mostar odgovorno i savjesno pristupa svakom korisniku sukladno internim pravilnicima i procedurama., tako je bilo i sa na\u0161im korisnikom koji je predmet ove korespondencije.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na\u0161i korisnici telekom usluga mogu potpisati ugovor na neodre\u0111eno ili odre\u0111eno vrijeme. Kod ugovora na neodre\u0111eno vrijeme korisnik ima mogu\u0107nost raskinuti ugovor u bilo kojem trenutku. Ipak najve\u0107i broj na\u0161ih korisnika odlu\u010duje se i potpisuje ugovor na odre\u0111eno vrijeme (12 ili 24 mjeseca ), \u010dime stje\u010de odre\u0111ene pogodnosti za vrijeme trajanja takvog ugovora. Ako po isteku ugovora na odre\u0111eno korisnik isti ne obnovi na novo razdoblje od 12\/24 mjeseca, usluge po automatizmu nastavlja koristiti na neodre\u0111eno, pri \u010demu gubi pogodnosti iz ugovora na odre\u0111eno sve dok ne sklopi novi ugovor na odre\u0111eno ili podnese zahtjev za prekid pretplatni\u010dkog odnosa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Svi na\u0161i korisnici dva mjeseca prije isteka ugovora na ra\u010dunu za fiksne telekomunikacijske usluge dobiju informaciju da im s odre\u0111enim datumom zavr\u0161ava ugovor koji nosi odre\u0111ene pogodnosti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U slu\u010daju bilo kakvog nezadovoljstva tijekom trajanja pretplatni\u010dkog odnosa, nejasno\u0107a ili pote\u0161ko\u0107a s uslugom, korisnik ima pravo i mogu\u0107nost ulo\u017eiti prigovor po kojem postupa prvostupanjsko i drugostupanjsko povjerenstvo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Korisni\u010dka podr\u0161ka HT Eroneta na raspolaganju je za servisiranje zahtjeva i upita koje na\u0161i korisnici dostave telefonski ili putem nekih od dostupnih digitalnih kanala, uklju\u010duju\u0107i e-mail adresu info@hteronet.ba vezano za svoj pretplatni\u010dki odnos i usluge koje koriste te Vas kao zainteresiranu stranu u svojstvu u kojem ste nam se obratili mo\u017eemo uputiti na podno\u0161enje zahtjeva za pristup informacijama sukladno Vodi\u010du za pristup informacijama, koji je dostupan na na\u0161im slu\u017ebenim web stranicama putem sljede\u0107e poveznice: https:\/\/www.hteronet.ba\/upoznajte-nas\/vodic-za-pristup-informacijama-s233&#8243; &#8211; odgovor op\u0161iran je koji smo dobili od Korisni\u010dke podr\u0161ke HT ERONET-a, a koji potpisuje Dinko D.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"28544\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/?attachment_id=28544\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/mnr.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1024,683\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"mnr\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/mnr.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/slucaj-eronet-25822-5.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-28544\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zna\u010di, dobili smo kao odgovor jedno Veliko ni\u0161ta i &#8220;\u0161altanje&#8221; na druge. A \u0161to je ve\u0107 ustaljena praksa, ne samo kod njih, nego kod mnogih koji su tu kada treba novce uzeti, a kada se problem stvori &#8220;loptice se prebacuju&#8221; s jednih na druge!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Odgovor kakav smo dobili, takav smo Vam i prezentirali, a oni neka se me\u0111usobno dogovaraju na ova ozbiljna pitanja \u0161to su i kako trebali odgovoriti, jer &#8220;sporni potpis&#8221; je izgleda veliki problem koji sigurno ne\u0107e tako lako opravdati, a kada se odlu\u010de \u0161to \u0107e napisati, imaju kontakt e-mail portala i neka po\u0161alju, vrlo rado \u0107emo objaviti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A \u0161to se ti\u010de g. Roberta Ljubi\u0107a, on \u0107e pokrenuti prijavu i tu\u017ebu pred nadle\u017enim institucijama, pa \u0107emo doznati tko i kako smije ne\u010diji potpis krivotvoriti. 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