{"id":22861,"date":"2023-01-09T23:24:01","date_gmt":"2023-01-09T23:24:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/test.otpor.media\/index.php\/2023\/01\/09\/https-otpor-media-zana-alpeza-ogovaranja-i-tracevi-kako-prezivjeti-ljudsku-zlobu\/"},"modified":"2024-07-03T22:08:12","modified_gmt":"2024-07-03T22:08:12","slug":"https-otpor-media-zana-alpeza-ogovaranja-i-tracevi-kako-prezivjeti-ljudsku-zlobu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/otpor.media\/?p=22861","title":{"rendered":"\u017dANA ALPEZA: &#8220;Ogovaranja i tra\u010devi &#8211; Kako pre\u017eivjeti ljudsku zlobu!&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nemogu\u0107e je zamisliti jedan dan u na\u0161em \u017eivotu da ljudi ne pri\u010daju, ogovaraju, tra\u010daju o \u201eNekome\u201c? Za\u0161to je to tako &#8211; nepristojno, bezobrazno, pohlepno, opasno i tako dalje je pri\u010dati o \u201enekome\u201c bez njegove\/zine prisutnosti! Kada bi se ovoga pravila poku\u0161ali pridr\u017eavati i ostati pribrani da \u201epazimo \u0161to govorimo o nekome\u201c, uvidjeli bismo da tra\u010devi i ogovaranja nemaju dugoro\u010dnu korist. Ali, te\u0161ko je to, skoro nemogu\u0107e. U ovome \u010dlanku vidjeti \u0107emo od istra\u017eivanja, sociolo\u0161ko-antropolo\u0161kog stajali\u0161ta za\u0161to \u010dovjek kao bi\u0107e ima potrebu za ogovaranjem ili tra\u010danjem?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/zana-alpeza-8622.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-25375 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>PI\u0160E:<\/strong> <strong>\u017dana Alpeza \/ OTPOR<sup>.Media<\/sup><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Neka istra\u017eivanja koje sam \u010ditala ka\u017eu da \u017eene dnevno izgovore 24 tisu\u0107e rije\u010di, do mu\u0161karci oko 12 tisu\u0107a rije\u010di. Onda ako je istra\u017eivanje doista to\u010dno \u017eene su sklonije po evolucijskoj, genskoj i tako dalji kategoriji vi\u0161e od mu\u0161karaca da tra\u010daju!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dio svakodnevnog ispijanja kava zasigurno je dijeljenje informacija o ljudima \u010dije \u0161alice kave nisu za tim stolom. Prema rezultatima nekih istra\u017eivanja, oko 60% razgovora odraslih ljudi uklju\u010duje osobe koje tim razgovorima ne nazo\u010di. Me\u0111utim, kada se dijele informacije o odsutnima, a kada se zapravo radi o ogovaranju? Postoje li i neke \u201edobrobiti\u201c ogovaranja? Jesu li ogovaranju skloniji mu\u0161karci ili \u017eene?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kako bi izgledala ili izgleda definicija ogovaranja?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zapravo nije lako definirati ogovaranje rije\u010dima, a da ta definicija odgovara intuitivnom shva\u0107anju svih ljudi o tome \u0161to je to ogovaranje.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/trac-10123-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33459\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Mnogi ljudi pod ogovaranjem podrazumijevaju \u010disto izno\u0161enje \u010dinjenica o nekome (npr. Ivana nije primljena na medicinu; Josip je ju\u010der zaglavio u prometu sat i pol vremena). Da bi se takav razgovor smatrao ogovaranjem, izno\u0161enje \u010dinjenice (informacije) mora biti pra\u0107eno evaluativnom informacijom. Drugim rije\u010dima, treba biti pra\u0107ena informacijom na osnovu koje mo\u017eemo procjenjivati neku osobu, i to na na\u010din da nam ta osoba \u201epadne u o\u010dima\u201c, odnosno da ju procjenjujemo na negativan na\u010din. Primjerice; \u201eIvana je bila lijena i nije se puno pripremala za maturu pa nije primljena na medicinu; Josip je glup, odbio je moj savjet da ne ide tom ulicom na posao pa je zaglavio u prometu sat i pol vremena\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dakle, dvije su komponente klju\u010dne u definiranju ogovaranja:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Razgovor mora biti o tre\u0107oj, odsutnoj osobi (ili osobi koja je prisutna u prostoriji, ali ne \u010duje razgovor) informacija koja se tijekom razgovora iznosi mora biti evaluativnog sadr\u017eaja (dakle, da utje\u010de na procjenu osobe o kojoj se govori).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bez evaluativne komponente ne bi bilo razlike izme\u0111u dijeljenja informacija o nekome (\u010dinjenica) i ogovaranja. Osim ove dvije \u201eglavne\u201c, u razgovoru moraju postojati druge komponente da bi on bio smatran ogovaranjem. Vrlo je va\u017ena valencija informacije koja se iznosi, odnosno odnosi li se ta informacija na ne\u0161to pozitivno ili na ne\u0161to negativno o odsutnoj osobi. Iako ljudi iznose i pozitivne informacije o drugima, to se smatra hvaljenjem (hvalisanjem; ako se iznosi pozitivno o bliskoj osobi).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kad ljudi ogovaraju, naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e se radi o tome da \u201eiznose sme\u0107e\u201c (spread dirt, talking trash), \u010desto prije toga priznaju\u0107i da znaju da to \u0161to govore nije dobro (\u201eMrzim ogovarati, ali\u2026\u201c; \u201eSad \u0161irim lo\u0161e informacije, ali\u2026\u201c).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bitna karakteristika ogovaranja je i njegova neformalnost. Ona se odnosi na to da informacije koje se iznose tijekom ogovaranja ne moraju nu\u017eno biti istinite. Za tra\u010d se \u201ezna\u201c da nije 100% to\u010dan kao informacija. Ljudi obi\u010dno ne vjeruju svemu \u0161to \u010duju i skepti\u010dni su kad \u010duju neki tra\u010d. Stoga je ogovaranje uglavnom neformalni oblik komunikacije. Osim toga, prema lai\u010dkoj teoriji ogovaranja, ogovaranje je usputni razgovor izme\u0111u ljudi koji provode neko vrijeme zajedno. Zapravo, \u010desto se na ogovaranje gleda kao na \u201epauzu\u201c koju ljudi uzimaju da se \u201eodmore od formalnog \u017eivota i razgovora\u201c. Tako se \u010desto ogovara za vrijeme pauze za kavu ili cigaretu \u2013 u trenucima kad se ljudi, na primjer na poslu, mogu \u201epona\u0161ati neformalno\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/trac-10123-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33461\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Zatim, budu\u0107i da se ogovaranje odnosi na tre\u0107u osobu, onu koja ne nazo\u010di razgovoru, ono je indirektno i \u010desto se na njega gleda kao na oblik indirektne agresije (kao \u0161to je spomenuto u pro\u0161lom \u010dlanku).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Iz navedenog se mo\u017ee zaklju\u010diti da ogovaranje nije lako definirati. Zaklju\u010dna bi definicija mogla biti: ogovaranje je neformalni oblik razgovora o odsutnoj osobi (osobi koja ne nazo\u010di tom razgovoru) na na\u010din da osoba koja je slu\u0161a\u010d negativno procijeni osobu o kojoj se govori, odnosno da joj ta odsutna osoba \u201epadne u o\u010dima\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kako bi svrstali ogovaranja i tra\u010deve?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Postoje dvije osnovne vrste ogovaranja, s obzirom na njihovu funkciju i motivaciju, odnosno cilj osobe koja ogovara.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">U skladu s lai\u010dkim poimanjem ogovaranja, u podlozi ogovaranja ve\u0107inom su antisocijalni motivi \u2013 radi se o namjernom poku\u0161aju ocrnjivanja neke osobe. Me\u0111utim, u podlozi ogovaranja mogu biti i prosocijalni motivi. Netko mo\u017ee \u0161iriti negativne informacije o tre\u0107oj osobi s ciljem da osobu s kojom razgovara za\u0161titi od nepravde ili iskori\u0161tavanja koju je sam do\u017eivio od strane osobe koju ogovara. Na primjer, Dunja mo\u017ee upozoriti Anu na suradnju s Ivom, tj. re\u0107i Ani da joj suradnja s Ivom nije \u201eupalila\u201c jer Iva \u010desto \u201ezabu\u0161ava\u201c i mijenja dogovorene termine radnih susreta ili se uop\u0107e na njima ne pojavi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tako Feinberg (2012) govori o \u201evrlinama ogovaranja\u201c (virtues of gossip), Znanstvenici su stoga uveli termin \u201edobro ogovaranje\u201c, a pod njim podrazumijevaju svako ogovaranje koje nema sebi\u010dne ciljeve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dakle, \u201edobra strana\u201c ogovaranja bila bi negativan utjecaj na ugled (\u201ereputaciju\u201c) ljudi \u010dije pona\u0161anje nije dru\u0161tveno po\u017eeljno i upozoravanje drugih ljudi na takva pona\u0161anja (tj. ljude). Na osnovu takvih informacija dobivenih ogovaranjem, ljudi mogu bolje (kvalitetnije) odabrati romanti\u010dne partnere, poslovne partnere ili prijatelje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u0160to ka\u017eu antropolozi &#8211; za\u0161to je to tako?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uz to, rezultati antropolo\u0161kih i sociolo\u0161kih istra\u017eivanja pokazali su da su naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e teme ogovaranja osobne kvalitete i posebnosti, pona\u0161anja koja nisu uobi\u010dajena za neku osobu (\u201eiznena\u0111enja u pona\u0161anju\u201c), mane i nedostaci, nagla\u0161avanje razlike izme\u0111u onoga \u0161to neka osoba govori i onoga \u0161to radi, socijalno nepo\u017eeljno pona\u0161anje (laganje, varanje), \u017eivotne nesre\u0107e (na poslovnom ili osobnom planu) i propusti u pona\u0161anju.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>O kome ljudi vole slu\u0161ati \u201eso\u010dne pri\u010de\u201c?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Zainteresiranost ljudi za neki tra\u010d ovisi o tome o kome je taj tra\u010d (koju se osobu ogovara). Ljudi su osobito zainteresirani za informacije o partneru, ro\u0111acima, kolegama iz struke, poznatim javnim osobama, i to osobito ako se radi o osobama istog spola. Osobe istog spola prema evolucijskoj su psihologiji glavni dru\u0161tveni suparnici, a i isto tako i va\u017eni prijatelji i suradnici. Takvi odnosi naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e postoje izme\u0111u osoba sli\u010dne \u017eivotne dobi, stoga su ljudi naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e zainteresirani za informacije o drugim osobama istog spola i sli\u010dne dobi. Nekoliko je istra\u017eivanja to i potvrdilo (npr. McAndrew, Bell i Garcia, 2007). Ta su istra\u017eivanja pokazala i ovo: ljudi vole znati o \u201eskandalima\u201c i nevoljama (ne o pozitivnim doga\u0111ajima) svojih suparnika i ljudi na visokim polo\u017eajima u javnosti jer su im te informacije va\u017ene u socijalnom natjecanju. S druge strane, ljudi vole znati o pozitivnim doga\u0111ajima svojih prijatelja i rodbine jer \u0107e ih najvjerojatnije nastojati iskoristiti u svoju korist kad to bude mogu\u0107e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-luminous-vivid-orange-color has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Spol i ogovaranje<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u0160to se spolnih razlika ti\u010de, rije\u010d \u201etra\u010d\/ogovor\u201c godinama se ve\u017ee uz \u017eenski spol. I u Bibliji se poziva na oprez u vezi ogovaranja op\u0107enito, a posebno \u017eenskog ogovaranja. Biblija je prete\u017eno pisana u mu\u0161kom rodu, uz zamjetljivu iznimku kod opisa udovica:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026\u201c A uz to se (udovice) u\u010de biti besposlene i skitati se po ku\u0107ama, i ne samo biti besposlene nego i ogovarati, mije\u0161ati se u tu\u0111e poslove i govoriti ono \u0161to ne bi smjele\u201c\u2026 (Timoteju 5,13)<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/otpor.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/trac-10123-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33460\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Percipirana univerzalnost povezanosti izme\u0111u \u017eenskog spola i zlonamjernog ogovaranja tako\u0111er se ogleda i u staroj kineskoj poslovici prema kojoj je \u201ejezik ma\u010d \u017eene i \u017eena se brine da on ne otupi\u201c. Stavljaju\u0107i narodnu mudrost na stranu, postavlja se pitanje postoje li konkretni podaci da su \u017eene sklonije ogovaranju nego mu\u0161karci i jesu li sklonije ogovaranju na agresivan na\u010din, s namjerom naru\u0161avanja odnosa neke osobe s drugim ljudima? Podaci postoje\u0107ih istra\u017eivanja upu\u0107uju na sljede\u0107e:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u017dene su, u odnosu na mu\u0161karce, sklonije ogovaranju drugih osoba istog spola.!!! (zapamtite).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mu\u0161karci \u201etra\u010deve\u201c naj\u010de\u0161\u0107e dijele sa svojim romanti\u010dnim partnerom, a \u017eene podjednako i s romanti\u010dnim partnerom i s osobama istog spola (drugim \u017eenama).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Iako su mu\u0161karci \u201ezainteresirani\u201c za novosti o drugim mu\u0161karcima, ta njihova zainteresiranost je ravna nuli kad se pogleda zainteresiranost \u017eena za informacije o drugim \u017eenama.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Op\u0107enito, \u017eene ogovaraju vi\u0161e nego mu\u0161karci i to obi\u010dno bliske prijatelje i rodbinu. Mu\u0161karci su skloniji pri\u010dati o sebi i svom poslu i vi\u0161e se samopromoviraju.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Me\u0111utim, to sve ne zna\u010di da su \u017eene agresivnije i \u201ezlo\u010destije\u201c od mu\u0161karaca ve\u0107 govori o tome koju vrstu nasilja preferiraju \u017eene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Na ogovaranje se gleda kao na uobi\u010dajeno i zapravo dru\u0161tveno nepo\u017eeljno pona\u0161anje. Kao \u0161to svaka medalja ima dvije strane, i ogovaranje ima svoju dobru i lo\u0161u stranu. \u201eMra\u010dna\u201c strana ogovaranja je ta da je ono na\u010din manipulacije ugledom drugih osoba preno\u0161enjem negativnih informacija o osobi, koje ne moraju nu\u017eno biti istinite. Dobra strana je ta \u0161to na taj na\u010din ljudi mogu saznati informacije na osnovu kojih mogu bolje odabrati prijatelje, romanti\u010dne ili poslovne partnere. Svevremenska pretpostavka da su \u017eene sklonije ogovaranju u negativnom kontekstu vi\u0161e je od stereotipa. \u017dene su osobito zainteresirane za \u017eivotna doga\u0111anja drugih osoba \u017eenskog spola i, u usporedbi s mu\u0161karcima, \u010desto ogovaraju na agresivan, kompetitivan na\u010din\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bez obzira koliko ljudi tra\u010dali, ogovarali nas ostanimo svoji, prisebni, ne spu\u0161tajmo se na granice koje nemaju smisla, koje drugima donose samo nevolje. Jer ipak je vrijeme najbolji pokazatelj!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u017dana Alpeza \/ OTPOR<sup>.Media<\/sup><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nemogu\u0107e je zamisliti jedan dan u na\u0161em \u017eivotu da ljudi ne pri\u010daju, ogovaraju, tra\u010daju o \u201eNekome\u201c? 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